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Velner's History of Obsession, Slander, Defamation, Stalking, and Bullying


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I despise bullies with a passion, but this one...oooh boy.

So recently, I was at my friend Sara's place looking to watch sports because my cable was on the fritz. After the game ended, I watched a few movies, and then at a point, I saw Sara was trying to play FFXI and create a character on Fenrir. I warned Sara against it, but I wasn't one to push, so I spoke my piece and that's it. I went home, then I woke up to the news that my friend got kicked out of this linkshell she joined called GoatsInTrees, and I was livid when I learned that Velner was in it.

I received a number of screenshots from my friend Sara, and here's the first screenshot showing Velner's bullsh*t (more on a theory I have later):  

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And here's the archive:  https://archive.is/t5vPZ

What follows is more of Velner's bullsh*t, which also includes some gaslighting and playing innocent as well. Seriously, this guy is such a clown. The purple chat color is tells, which are private in game whispers in Final Fantasy XI. When there is ">>" in front of a name, that means it is something being said to that person. With nothing in front of it, it means it is that person speaking. Here's the evidence:

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And here are the archives:

https://archive.is/L7t58

https://archive.is/Ev7WV

And look at this! Velner's continuing his sh*t on Discord, and his fellow bully cohorts are joining in on the harassment as well. Here are the shots:

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Archives:

https://archive.is/GgXqR

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https://archive.is/PEUw6

And it's not just on Discord. Thanks to Velner's delusions and flat out slander, the bullying and harassment from his like-minded cohorts actually struck Reddit as well: Here's the screenshot, from a conversation on Reddit:

 

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And here's the archive:  https://archive.is/whybU

This whole thing goes back a good bit to a character known as Shadowdragon, who bullied a user known as Hannahmontana in Quetzalcoatl server on Final Fantasy XI, whom is a friend of mine. The bullying was because Shadowdragon was a p**sy because she wouldn't delete her character so a friend of his could have that name. He bullied her off and on for many years, which is why she would delete and recreate alot. He gaslighted a lot of people against her with so many lies and rumors. All of this started back in 2006. More than a decade after the bullying started, Shadowdragon went to the Asura server and changed his name to Serpentdragon, and saw a different Hannahmontana featured and decided to bully that person, who was actually a 15-year-old girl. Spicyryan also joined in, and as for Hannahmontana from Quetzalcoatl, she was falsely accused of kicking people out of a linkshell, even though that account was dormant for a long time, but other people believed the claims. Also despite she only ever having a linkshell pearl to that linkshell and never a pearl sack, which gives the power to kick.

In actuality, it was discovered that the person doing the kicking that Hannah from Quetz was falsely accused of committing was, in fact, Shadowdragon (aka Serpentdragon). He had created a new character on that server, and gained enough trust to do that. Now that I think about it, I recall hearing about some kickings from an LS from Asura, but it was a few years ago back when Shadowdragon first got there. I think he got on the Fenrir server and pulled this same crap. Or it could have been Velner capitalizing on a situation that Shadowdragon put HM from Quetz in, and Velner's doing the kickings and setting her up.

Speaking of Velner, he joined in on the bullying because he's friends with Spicyryan. And here's the thing:  Velner never reached out to either of the Hannahmontanas at all. He just took the bullying slander as gospel, and even continues to slander Hannahmontana from Quetzalcoatl over and over again on his Twitch live streams. He makes all sorts of wild claims against HM from Quetz with absolutely NOTHING TO BACK IT UP!! The most disturbing lie that Velner told was that HM from Quetz said that Velner's cat should be skinned. THAT'S A f**kING LIE!!! HM from Quetz loves cats, she has cats of her own that she treasures so much. I know it because I've seen it for myself on a daily basis. One cat she cared for was named Tiger; a beautiful cat she took in and took great care of for so long, up until the day that Tiger left this world. Tiger passed away due to nasal cancer. And again, HM from Quetz would NEVER make that horrible comment about ANY CAT, especially one that looks like her precious Tiger! HM from Quetz loves her cats. The same can't be said for Velner. The only time Velner features his cat is for attention. If they can't get him clout, he doesn't bother. Also, it often appear that is more annoyed with Velner than actually likes him. It's often said that cats can sense evil presences, you know; I think that cat knows Velner's a prick.

Velner also calls himself a lawyer, yet he has a tendency to spend at least one-third of his day on Twitch live-streaming. Also, the so-called "lawyer" doesn't know that his actions--catfishing, cyberbullying, and stalking--are against the law! If Velner's a lawyer, then I'm Jordan Love. He has a sick obsession with Hannahmontana, and he believes that everyone who uses that name or comes to the defense of HM from Quetz is that same person. Velner also thinks anyone who uses a notable name is Hannahmontana of Quetzalcoatl. When I first watched Velner, he was harassing someone named AmberMera007 and was accusing her of being Hannahmontana from Quetzalcoatl, and he was using AmberMera007 defending herself to make those false claims, all so he wouldn't appear to be wrong...even though he's clearly wrong. Mind you, no proof of his crap his shown. Why? Because it's clear that Velner's lying through his teeth, and he's using his status to get HM from Quetz harassed. People use notable names so much, but by his logic, if a person uses say, Johnny Depp, Taylor Swift, or even Joe Biden, it's that same person. So by his logic, I clearly have to be a White woman, instead of what I actually am, a Black man. After all, his implied logic suggests anyone defending Hannahmontana of Quetz are the same person on top of anyone that uses a notable name.

Velner has also claimed that HM from Quetz has kicked people from a linkshell on Fenrir. That's impossible. She doesn't even have a character on Fenrir. On a recent live stream (evening of 8/25/2024) sees him start up drama and obsess over HM from Quetz, literally voicing his hope that she's watching. Even worse, Velner's verbal garbage is believed by his viewers and followers, who drink the proverbial Kool-Aid and even resort to their own sick and twisted comments against HM from Quetz. Here's a small sample. Case in point:

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Archives:

https://archive.is/QHWPt

https://archive.is/DbPY5

And here's proof that Velner is highly likely not a lawyer. Look at this streaming schedule. Hours upon hours upon hours of live streaming. Being a lawyer is not a normal 9-to-5 job. You're basically working every second you're awake. 9:30PM to 3AM Eastern Time (6:30PM to Midnight Pacific Time) is five and a half hours! Five and a half hours of live streaming, and he tends to go over that amount. The average human supposedly spends eight hours sleeping, eight hours working, and the remaining eight hours for whatever. So really, we're supposed to be awake for 16 hours per day. As I stated, a lawyer is not a normal eight-hour job. Out of those 16 hours spent awake, I would think that a lawyer spends at least 12 of them working their profession, which only leaves four hours for whatever. Velner streams for at least five and a half hours, if not six, seven, or even eight! And he says he's a lawyer?! Child, please! Again, here's the proof that there's highly likely no way that Velner's a lawyer:

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Between 8/25/2024 stream and the Discord crap, Velner's gaslighting of his listeners has them drinking the koolaid on such a level that they are talking about coordinated attacks of downvotes and dislikes. While it is okay to have an opinion and dislike/downvote something, it is not okay to coordinate dislikes and downvotes just because. Massive disliking and downvoting ruins the stock of the user and damages their reputation on a massive level. It will give people the wrong idea about a person and subject them to being ostracized and bullied. And speaking of that stream, as you see, there's threats of doxxing in those comments. That's absolutely frightening.

Velner has a depraved obsession with Hannahmontana and can't, to borrow from Will Smith, "keep her name out of his f**king mouth." The man is a depraved liar, gaslighter, and sociopath who has no business on any social media platform. Velner wants to portray HM from Quetz as being obsessed, but he's the one who is obsessed. HM from Quetz is enjoying her life with her cats and her friends, and hasn't given Velner a single thought at all, and honestly, I think Velner is butthurt and jealous of HM from Quetz's strength. He craves drama and loves starting sh*t because it's literally all he has in the massive void he calls his life. HM from Quetz moves on when she stands up to bullies like him, and it bruises his fragile little ego at an exponential rate, to the point where he has to make up every horrible lie in the book to say about her. That's why Velner does this sh*t:  he's a small and petty man.

There are so many ways that HM from Quetz is better than Velner. HM from Quetz cares for her cats and cares about others. Velner...not so much, unless he can benefit from it. HM from Quetz doesn't pretend to be something she isn't. Velner lies to others and himself on a public live forum. One lie he tells himself and others is that he thinks HM from Quetz is in love with him. If he believes that, then I have a bridge in Anaheim I can sell him cheap. Also, HM from Quetz doesn't slander people and take slander as gospel. Velner's been doing it for too long. Again, he's never once spoken to either of the Hannahmontanas at all; he's too busy obsessing and gaslighting instead of exploring the fact that he believed the wrong people and chose to judge based on heresay, lies. He's never tried to de-escalate. HM from Asura will be hard to find, but there is my friend from Quetz. If he was anything even remotely close to being a  real man, he'd reach out to HM from Quetz and properly apologize to her for the sh*t he's pulled and done. 

As I said before, HM from Quetz is living her best life and enjoying things, and this blog below is all she has left to say about it. Knowing her like I do, when she speaks her piece about something, that's it, she moves on. And she doesn't go back to is unless it's absolutely necessary. Here is her blog below:

So on the evening of 8/26/2024, Velner returned to Twitch for another live stream. The subject did turn to HM from Quetz's video calling his stupid a** out, because he can't go two seconds without mentioning her--it's the only thing that keeps him relevant. The following screenshots (and the archive links) show just a sliver of Velner's hideous harassment.

First off, Velner doubled, tripled, and quadrupled down on his lie about HM from Quetz; the aforementioned false accusation that she insulted his cat and said that his cat should be skinned. HM from Quetz NEVER SAID THAT, and the screenshot actually shows that it was Serpentdragon (formerly known as Shadowdragon) who made the horrible comments. He either transferred to Fenrir or created a version of himself there. It's right there--Serpentdragon, not HM from Quetz. However, what does Velner say about that? He said that it was HM from Quetz, even with that evidence countering his lie staring him right in the face. Besides HM from Quetz doesn't even talk like that. In Velner's mind, Shadowdragon aka Serpentdragon doesn't exist, and it's been HM from Quetz all this time. Even worse, his dickless followers buy that sh*t too. Here's the screenshot:

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Archive link:  https://archive.is/qI2Pi

And in this screenshot, one of Velner's lemming followers is accusing HM of Quetz of having "multiple personalities," a version of the whole "same person" bullsh*t lie that Velner himself spews, and continued to spew in that stream. f**king ridiculous that people would be so damn gullible and stupid. Even the boyfriends/husbands in Lifetime movies aren't this idiotic! Here's the screenshot:

 

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Archive link:  https://archive.is/RyVYd

In this screenshot, the sick defense of Velner continues. It was a wave of this--followers blindly eating up Velner's lies and bullsh*t in the same way that a rat eats cheese. One such follower, "snowbals" attacked HM from Quetz's video by using the "r" word. It's absolutely hideous conduct! Here's the screenshot:

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Archive link:  https://archive.is/ZzJwj

In this shot, a pair of bullying comments stand out. First, this dummy known as BigBuffaloChip is claiming that HM from Quetz has a crush on Velner, which is the same delusional claim that Velner made on 8/25/2024 (he would say it again in this stream as well). Second, "HandBananaBusta" saying "let me at her," which is an indication that the sicko wants to harm HM from Quetz. Here's the screenshot:

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Archive link:  https://archive.is/q4BJ8

In these next two screenshots, these same pricks have blatantly admitted that they were stalking HM from Quetz's Twitter, and we see some victim-shaming and victim-blaming as well. "BigBuffaloChip" definitely goes into victim-blaming mode with the comment saying that HM from Quetz is to blame for not letting Shadowdragon's friend have the name. Funny how the only time they do acknowledge Shadowdragon's existence is use it to bully and shame HM from Quetz. And there's also the comment from this idiot called "Autkast" mockingly talking about being blocked from Twitter. Here are the screenshots:

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Archive links:  

https://archive.is/6iknH

https://archive.is/0fMYB

These next three screenshots show some very disgusting comments. One comment from "treacle_snow" makes the whole "same person" accusation, but what really burns me up is this dickless f**ker known as "chizel_whizel," who makes not one, but TWO comments mocking Tiger's death from Nasal Squamous Cell Carcinoma (nasal cancer)! Seriously, there's a special place in hell reserved for people who laugh at the death of pets and for those who mock and make fun of cancer. Here are the screenshots:

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Archive links:

https://archive.is/HhaWA

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https://archive.is/PmzOg

As I said, these screenshots are just part of harassment. All of this is Velner's handiwork. He's letting his followers use his cat and cat's name to mock and make fun of Tiger's death from Nasal Squamous Cell Carcinoma (nasal cancer). They are lumping together anyone who defends HM from Quetz as the same person, just like Velner does. Velner actually told HM from Quetz, via his stream because he thought she was watching, that she shouldn't exist. So he was saying that she should be DEAD! And his sick, sychophantic f**khead followers are voicing that same sh*t! Velner's spent HOURS UPON HOURS UPON HOURS gaslighting his f**king sheep and slandering HM from Quetz, and his dumb f**k followers are DRINKING IT ALL UP because they are motherf**king MORONS!!!! Seriously, Velner and his bunch are nothing but a f**king cult; much worse than the ones from Lifetime movies, and worse than the real life ones! I wouldn't put it past Velner to clip out parts of some of his streams to play innocent. Velner's sick and twisted bullsh*t needs to stop. He not only needs to be held accountable for his horrendous bullying, he needs to be criminally charged for it!

I did create a video calling out Velner's horrible nonsense, and it includes stuff that needed to be said regarding that massive, egregious tool! The video is on Tiktok and on YouTube, and here are the links. Check them out!

 

 

 

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This Velner is clearly very disturbed! The drunks where I worked aren't as depraved as he is.

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Ah! I remember. That is how I met you.

 

I watched Velner's stream because I was genuinely interested in his content. I was considering playing Final Fantasy XI. I tried asking him a few questions. One of of them was how the population was and if extreme trolling was an issue. That was when he began to accuse me of being this Hannahmontana. I told him I wasn't. He persisted in trying to convince me I was this Hannahmontana. He wouldn't shut up, so I defended myself. I called him a drama king. 

 

That's when you came in. I saw as you asked Velner why he was targeting your friend. You explained that just because someone played a character on one server that it did not mean if a character of the same name existed elsewhere that it was here. He came up with a whole host of excuses as he accused you of being her.

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Velner is a male version of Regina George.

1- Looks for/invents reasons to create hate for someone.

2- Makes stuff up to cause/stir drama.

3- Lies about people so there is drama and he can get attention.

4- Says the victim is in love with them to create a false sense of obsession and disturbing mentality.

 

Do I need to continue?

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I believe that Velner stirs the pot and creates drama for people in order to attract (and keep) viewers. I think that one of the reasons for this is his streaming of the same content over and over can get tiresome over time.

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Let Velner have his little drama games. It's all he has and the best his life will get. He does all this to feel more important.

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On 8/27/2024 at 11:06 AM, Amber Mera said:

Ah! I remember. That is how I met you.

 

I watched Velner's stream because I was genuinely interested in his content. I was considering playing Final Fantasy XI. I tried asking him a few questions. One of of them was how the population was and if extreme trolling was an issue. That was when he began to accuse me of being this Hannahmontana. I told him I wasn't. He persisted in trying to convince me I was this Hannahmontana. He wouldn't shut up, so I defended myself. I called him a drama king. 

 

That's when you came in. I saw as you asked Velner why he was targeting your friend. You explained that just because someone played a character on one server that it did not mean if a character of the same name existed elsewhere that it was here. He came up with a whole host of excuses as he accused you of being her.

To a bully, anyone supporting one of their victims is the same person. That is an old tactic as old as the early 2000s.

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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that Velner has a problem with stirring trouble. He makes it obvious he's behind alot of trouble being stirred for you. I'm sure his followers see it. But they're all cowards. They go along with it for attention during his streams. They go along with it to be part of the in crowd.

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20 hours ago, Saw Tooth said:

To a bully, anyone supporting one of their victims is the same person. That is an old tactic as old as the early 2000s.

They do that to make their victim look unstable. The worse the victim looks, the better the bully looks.

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Velner doesn't have much going for himself. Work, streaming, basic hygiene, and a cat he doesn't pay much attention to. That's it. Yea, I've seen his streams.

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1 hour ago, Angie said:

They do that to make their victim look unstable. The worse the victim looks, the better the bully looks.

That won't work forever.

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22 hours ago, Saw Tooth said:

Let Velner have his little drama games. It's all he has and the best his life will get. He does all this to feel more important.

He has viewers and listeners. He uses them for popularity and vendettas. So yeah, I doubt he has much going for him.

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On 8/28/2024 at 12:45 PM, Saw Tooth said:

Let Velner have his little drama games. It's all he has and the best his life will get. He does all this to feel more important.

For some reason, stirring and creating drama gives Velner some sort of high; a purpose.

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On 8/29/2024 at 11:28 AM, Tamara said:

He has viewers and listeners. He uses them for popularity and vendettas. So yeah, I doubt he has much going for him.

I think he's trying to relive those high school days in reverse.

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Velner has a strong addiction to drama. He can't seem to go long without it. While he might occasionally say he wants the drama to cool down, it's only so he can hide his addiction and mask it as he's being the bigger person.

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